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1 min readDec 5, 2024

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You don't need to be a monolith for this to be true.

In group / out group thinking is a red herring here. A useless distraction. A rhetorical device to ring the bell, tap out, and be lazy.

If a kid wants a puppy, you ask him/her to take accountability for the puppy. That's nowhere near the same as blaming him/her beccause the puppy didn't come housebroken. Or dumping on him/her beccause they don't already know how to house train a puppy. Or saying they're solely responsible for the outcome of the attempted house training while everyone else in the household gets to sabotage the attempts.

Accountability means pitching in and communicating. Working with the whole family to ensure that puppy is taken care of, discipline is fair and consistent, puppy is getting exercise and breaks as it needs, fed regularly, etc. Taking initiative to find out how to housetrain if you don't know how, what does that puppy need if you don't know, choosing a vet, etc.

These are not the same thing. Pretending otherwise is a bad faith argument.

You "centrists" are validating and mollycoddling bad faith arguments and then blaming leftist groups for "not listening".

We listened.

We've listened to all sorts of invalid arguments.

They're still invalid.

Right leaning groups persistent failure to properly articulate what their deal is does not constitute a national emergency or a failure of leftist groups to listen.

If even you (universal) don't know what the fuck you're talking about, why should anyone else be expected to figure it out?

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