Yes. That's exactly what I mean. There's not much joy in being a family's martyr. A life of nonexistence and servitude is not fulfilling for many. That's what complementation doctrine does to many many families.

It also leaves you incredibly vulnerable to abandonment and poverty.

It's your choice, hope you don't end up regretting it. Most women do, from what I've seen over 2 generations of observing the fallout from it.

Yeah, I admit the muffin analogy was rough and not the "bestest" of best analogies. Here's the thing. You're saying that eimen have an attitude, thinking they're a prize and then because of that they get offended being asked what they bring to the table.

But, does she? Does she think herself a prize? Or is she recognizing the man has already defined her as one? He's already picked her for consideration over a bunch of other women.

They're not coming to the date in the same place, emotionally. He's already attracted. He already knows what his expectations are. She doesn't. Like I said, I dont like the question. I don't like the verbage of it. There's better ways to ask. Were human beings, not commodities to be haggle over like some kind ofndating stick exchange it's kinda gross.

But I don't mind the intent of it. And we both agree, that's what dates are for in the first place. To evaluate each other.

For me, again, I've never asked a guy this and I never will. I generally go with something sking the lines of, "what are your hopes here? What's the attraction and what need or lack are you hoping to have filled? What are you looking for?" Something like that. Accomplishes the same thing without putting anyone on the spot and without all that gross, disgusting, out of place economic language.

From what I've seen, read, heard from other women...most actually don't mind at all. Those that do it's mostly over two things. Inapropriate timing or they've already spoken at length about themselves while he talks over her telling her what kind of guy he is and then get smacked with this question that has already been answered if the guy had been paying any attention at all instead of focusing on himself.

I can see that being extremely aggravating too.

I don't see this as the hypocrisy issue you do.

I do find it interesting that you're attached to complementsrianism but reject women thinking themselves prizes, bemoaning the "attitude", when complementarianism makes women prizes. It's based off that, biblically soesking, all the way back to the wisdom of Solomon. So I see some incongruity there on your part but not on the part of women in general.