It's not my experience, actually. I had a playful father who spent time with us every weekend and picked us up after school a lot. He took us to school every morning. I had two involved grandfathers who kept us each (siblings and I) one month out of every summer, along with my geandmothers and took us camping, fishing, horseback riding, moped riding, etc. One of my earliest memories is being out in the garden with Papa, jumping from footprint to footprint and picking up potatoes after he pulled the plants. I remember my dad teaching me to drive a nail, at 3, and tying my shoes, at 4. I remember my other Papa lifting me up onto Penelope (horse), at 4, and leading us around. I remember him smiling and saying, "it'll be our secret so Grandma won't worry and fuss".

So no. My experience was healthy, meaningful masculinity. This is why seeing other fathers, increasingly through the years and more particularly with the rise of alpha ideology bullshit strikes me so obviously as anathema to mental health and separating. How could it not be?

Because it's the exact opposite of what I had. And I see what it's doing to men.

I wish to God you men would get your heads out of your asses. You're cheating yourselves with this nonsense and cheating your children of your presence and affection.

Agree about too many people getting married who shouldn't be.

And in the interests of fairness, there's some things I wish my fellow women would get their heads out of their asses about too. Sometimes, it's just fucking embarrassing.