It's always funny when women point out the realities of how the world works and the fickleness of men who are wishy washy that to those men, it's because they must be in pain.

Naw, dawg. That's just being a realist and a pragmatist.

Men are what they are. It does not always align with what you need to secure a nest for raising children. Theres no moral equivocation being made about it, one way or the other.

The fact is, if she produces offspring with you, under those conditions, she's doing so under more hazardous conditions than she could get with a man who is less wishy washy and fearful.

It's her risk to take. Hopefully she fully and completely understands the risk. And let's face it, having children in the first place involves risk. Again, no moral judgements. It is what it is.

But I betcha if she has a kid with you, it will destroy your relationship and you will turn her into a feminist.

BTW, I had my child under what men, particularly conservative men, pontificate endlessly being the most risky of risky circumstances, except maybe being a crack addict or in a prison or in a IPV situation, or something. By choice. That's right. I vhose single motherhood from the beginning.

It's been great. There's not much I would change. Far less painful a motherbood experience than the vast majority of my coupled peers (except the lesbian couples, of course).

My "pain" is having heard their stories. My "pain" is a sort of survivors guilt.