I did not call Ossiana a liar. Stop putting wirds in my mouth.

Maybe you should read the article again.

Ossiana is recognizing in this article that some men have an erroneous belief about what feminism is. SHE IS NOT AGREEING WITH THAT BELIEF. She's recognizing that they have a misperception.

Not the same thing at all. And by the way, I completely agree with Ossiana on this. I don't know that I agree with her that it's the job or responsibility of feminists to completely take this on. I'm not saying I disagree completely either. I'm somewhat ambiguous about it.

If you'll recall, she clearly stated in the article that her friend was surprised when she explained to him what feminism is about because he didn't know.

He had a belief that he got from other men mostly, but media as well, but he didn't know Jack diddly squat about feminism. Not really.

And once again, we have a divide between what was actually said, both in the article and by me, and how you reframed it in order to nurse some resentments against women.

You can't teach someone something they are umwilling to learn. You can't lead someone out of a wilderness they refuse to leave. Her friend was open to hearing her out, at least in this moment. It's a little naive or maybe overly hopeful to think that all men who think feminism is about hating men are going to be equally open. They aren't and they won't be.

As many of us have seen, time and time again.