I did consider. I've considered that many a time, even in childhood. It's the same as, "he's only picking on you because he likes you."

It's not the same.

First off, we're generalizing so broad strokes. You can't use rare examples as standards in a group. Gay men are the more rare part od the group known as men. The sexual relationship ships may men have with each other are not the same as the relationship ships hetero men have with women, abroad strokes.

Being objectified is not the same as expressing sexual interest. I've never known a guy man to reduce other men down to his dick, or a collection of body parts. I've never known a guy man to assume he has rights over the body, time, and attention of other men whether he is interested in them sexually or not.

To objectify someone is to have a deep seated belief and act toward them in ways that demonstrate that you believe they were put on this earth to serve and please you. It is to strip, rob, or ignore their agency and will.

Men do not do this to other men in the way that men do this to women. Broad strokes.

Same thing about the labor. This isn't the same as doing an occasional favor for a friend.

Men do denigrate feminine characteristics and then define themselves thus. Men define themselves as what they are not, and they make the thing they are not a bad thing to be. Men are not pussies. Boys don't cry. Men are strong. Men aren't emotional (this one is a misnomer, more like they can only express anger, which is an emotion), Men are logical (also a misnomer), men are leaders (most men are actually followers are very sheep-like; but who are they supposed to be leading).

In order to elevate the attributes that 'make you a man', you have to devalue or disparage the ones assigned to femininity., like being caring or nurturing, being soft, being emotional, holding a place for rationality in equal regard to logic.

Men define themselves as men as being the opposite of women, rather than the opposite of (or conclusion of) being a boy.

Were all expected to engage in gender performance. That's what I mean by performance of masculinity. Men judge each other based on how much and how well the check the man box behaviors.

You can't tease your wife the way you do your friends because it's not the same relationship. In the rare instances that women are part of an in group (almost unheard of because of objectification) it would go down the same. You see this in young children some before they are fully aware of gender dynamics and start sticking to them.

Yes, Urchling is my daughter.

I'm not really part of the feminist movement, as such. As an analogy to Christianity again...you could say that I'm an agnostic, believing in the general ideogy but I don't go to church or participate in group or organized faith practices.

Same thing. I believe in gender equality, but I do not belong to any feminist group, have many dealings with anything organized, or jump on any feminist bandwagon just because it gets called 'feminist'.

Most of organizations and 'movements' are centered around liberal feminism. I'm not a liberal feminist. I'm a radical feminist, in the true sense of what the word means, not what butt hurt men say it means.

Also, Urchling does not consider herself a feminist. She's not anti-feminist. She just doesn't think of it like an identity or a club or clique thing, like a lot of women do; that comes from liberal feminism. I didn't when I was her age either, even though I was already building a life in that direction and believed in equality.