Hahaha. Okay.

Did you get psychology degree out of a Cracker Jack box? Your comment has that energy.

Ain't nothin' new under the sun here. You can lead a horse or an elephant to water but you can't make them drink. Elephant is more apt here because of "the elephant in the room".

These guys are caught in a narcissistic, self absorbed reinforcing, negative feedback loop. It's a death spiral. Aleays has been.

Normal people do not have the skillsets to deal with this. They're either foing to have to get themselves out or get therapy. Having or being given a woman as a pacifier won't fix this either. You're just wasting a woman's life for nothing.

It's the same thing with women who become obsessed with their looks to the point that they're self harming, have an eating disorder, or chase after cosmetic surgery or what have you. Normal guys cannot convince that woman that she's not hideously ugly or to eat something or punishing herself by binging and purging or cutting. It takes a special skillset or she has to snap out of it on her own.

Very often that comes down to the wire of literally almost dying before they can turn it around.

Lots of times, peopke trying to help actually make it worse.

These people are drowning from unhealthy mental fixations. You cannot save them. And if you try without knowing what you're doing, they might drown you with them.