God, I too, am so tired of these same old bullshit arguments from these apathetic twits.
There's really only 2 choices here and people need to come to terms with that. Stat.
Choice one, put up or shut up, take a shit or get off the pot, get some skin in the game or clear the field, whatever expression you want to use.
Choice two. Start thinking about palliative care for your family, your neighbor, your community, your state, your nation, your civilization, your culture, your hopes, your dreams, your future.
To quote another movie, "get busy living or get busy dying".