As I understand it, there was discussion about whether or not to hold a vote to expel her from Congress or to remove her from Committee. They went with a vote to remove her from Committee. I saw that vote but did not watch all day, almost but not quite. All the news articles talk about the vote I saw but nothing speaks of a failed vote to expel her from Congress that I might have missed. Yet I keep hearing this point from conservatives.
Are you all making a point that doesn’t actually exist? I fail to see how this is a free speech issue. How could Dems be punishing her against the tenants of free speech if there was never a vote to expel her from Congress in the first place?
What’s the math here?
Her behavior has been problematic and anti-democratic beyond typical partisan fights. It required a response. Discussing available options does not violate her free speech, it wasn’t about free speech, it’s just a discussion to determine appropriate response in the same way mom and dad might discuss whether their child’s conduct warrants a grounding or having their car taken away.
It’s also arguable whether or not it’s protected by free speech or violates the law. There are limits to free speech we all accept. Problems with those video clips of her “exercising free speech" to David Hogg accusing him of “trying to take her 2nd amendment gun rights" go beyond what was coming out of her mouth. There are clips over multiple locations. I don’t know if it was the same day or different days. They were on the street, not at a venue or a protest. That means she stalked him, she harassed him, and she menaced him. Verbally, it could be argued that she slandered him as well. These actions did not occur virtually, they were in real life at street level.
Last time I checked those things are all criminal conduct. If she were male, she would have been arrested. David Hogg and his organization could still sue her.
Free speech is not an absolute. It extends only as far as it does not infringe on another person’s rights, including their right to life and liberty.
Her removal from Committee was appropriate. Congress may act against disruptive, anti-Democratic or unconstitutional behavior of one of its members without there having been a criminal proceeding because nothing in that Constitutional Article requires a criminal indictment or conviction.
She called for the executions of Pence and Pelosi. Investigations are ongoing about Jan 6, but video clips have surfaced of her threatening, harassing, and menacing fellow Congresspersons in the same manner she did David Hogg. She may have assisted the rioters or given out locations of targets to insurrectionists knowing they were looking for certain people to publicly lynch. If so, that’s not freedom of speech, that’s conspiracy to commit murder.
Regardless of whether or not she ever faces criminal charges, that’s where we’re at with her. Clearly, it’s not a one time thing, it’s a pattern of behavior.
I agree with you that there’s an appropriate process to be followed and it should be. I disagree with you that removal from Committee was overreach, inappropriate, or even about free speech.
If a nurse is accused, being investigated for, or on trial for being an angel of death we don’t send them back to work at the nursing home while that process is ongoing. We don’t put them in a position to do more harm while it’s all being hashed out.
Removing her from Committee can be considered in the same light. It does not subvert Georgia’s District 14 as they can choose to re-elect. She is still their Representative and still has a floor vote. She can still participate in Republican caucus. As I understand it, she may even serve on Committee again in time, it’s not permanent. She can continue to embarrass Georgians, Republicans, and white women by flapping all her conspiracy nonsense. She can still carry around her weapon, just not on the House floor and she can’t brandish it at people for being Democrats or mass shooting survivors or whatever Q thinks is evil today.
She is appropriately limited from doing more harm until the extent of her actions are known and evaluated. That’s reasonable.
There was a time, before Republicans lost their spines and their conscience when they would have done exactly what happened and cleaned up their own caucus without the matter having to go to a floor vote.