Agree they need to chill, be patient, and grow on their own for a while.

I could do without so many blaming women for not giving them sex and being jealous of guys supposedly getting it when they're not serious about relationships at that age anyway. They want loyalty without giving.

What's happening is a societal problem. That means it's not the fault of women any more or less than anyone else's. Yet, the manosphere is whipping themselves up into either a large scale femicide or full on oppression by lavally stripping us of civil rights again. That won't go well.